Who could play Vetinari in a movie?

Discussion in 'THE WATCH BOOKS' started by Pinkystupot, Jun 19, 2007.

  1. Pinkystupot New Member

    This has come up in a few threads so I thought I'd start an official one.

    I think Alan Rickman or Hugh Fraser personally.

    Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
  2. Mithras-Kosmokrator New Member

    Oh... not sure about Hugh Fraser. Terrence Hardiman would be my choice.
  3. Pinkystupot New Member

    demon headmaster yes?? he would be good.
  4. bazstar New Member

    HOw about Dustin Hoffman. Small, thin, inocuous and smart at the same time.?????
  5. Pinkystupot New Member

    too old i think and not austere enough
  6. Hsing Moderator

    And small wasn't in the description either...:smile:
  7. Katcal I Aten't French !

    Yes, as far as I can remember, Vetinari is a tall thin man, and of course, it must not be forgotten that he was trained as an assassin too... Dustin Hoffman is altogether too jovial for my taste...
  8. nutkar97 New Member

    I think the best person who COULD have played Vetinari would have been Christopher Lee (pity he's dead) Ok, hes old, but it is commented on the he probably dyes his hair, and if you read the books right, Vetinari IS in his mid to late 50's in the present in Night Watch.

    So given that my choice is berift of life, joined the choir invisble and for all intents and purposes, an ex-thespian, this is a fairly pointless post.

    Ah well!!!
  9. jaccairn New Member

    i think you may be mixing up your actors as Christopher Lee is still alive. Did you mean someone else?
  10. Buzzfloyd Spelling Bee

    I was very upset for a moment there!
  11. nutkar97 New Member

    Jeez, I'm sorry bout that, I was told he had died halfway through making Return of the King, I never thought to check up on it.

    Well I have now and he is most definatly still among us, so what do you think, Saruman as Vetinari???
  12. Katcal I Aten't French !

    Yep, he's still around, I read that and thought I must be getting it wrong, glad I wasn't !
  13. Pinkystupot New Member

    Yer i think Chistopher Lee would be amazing as him. little hair dye needed of course.
  14. nutkar97 New Member

    Well as I mentioned, it is commented on many times that he must dye his hair, so i dont think that would be too out of place. The other person one of my friends thinks for Vetinari is Christopher Walkin, of A view to a kill fame, and also the horseman in Sleepy Hollow, but I'm not sure I agree with him on this :question:
  15. Katcal I Aten't French !

    Christopher Walken ;)
  16. Pinkystupot New Member

    to be honest i just dont see it. he doesnt seem....right, too evil in a way. i know vetinari is a tyrant of sorts but i dont know. doesnt seem right. i dont like the voice much either
  17. Fuzz New Member

    Maybe Bill Nighy?
  18. Pinkystupot New Member

    not evil enough. bill nighys too nice
  19. Buzzfloyd Spelling Bee

    I don't know, Nighy can do nasty. He's a very good character actor. But I don't know if I can see him as a stealthy assassin.
  20. Stercus Stercus New Member

    I can see it I think. Vetinari was a stealthy assassin when he was younger. He's not so young now.
  21. Mithras-Kosmokrator New Member

    No - Bill Nighy may be many things, but a predatory flamingo he is not. And Christopher Walken is too... psycho-looking.
  22. Katcal I Aten't French !

    Actually, having seen HP5 yesterday, I must say the idea of Alan Rickman as Vetinari is growing on me. Nighy, however much I love the actor, is not Vetinari.
  23. Hsing Moderator

    Strange, I have been wandering away from the idea. I think he is a great actor, but he fits my mental image of the character less and less. Still, of course, if he can play Snape, a character who, in the books, is more than twenty years younger than Rickman is now... Who knows.
  24. Katcal I Aten't French !

    That was more or less what's pulling me back towards it, that and the fact that vetinari is supposed to dye his hair... I always thought Rickman was too old now, but seeing him as Snape kind of rang the right bell...
  25. JLeigh New Member

    Re: Vetinari

    Anyone think Stephen Briggs looks a little Vetinari? He do any acting? :)
  26. Buzzfloyd Spelling Bee

    Actually, I don't think I've ever seen a picture of Stephen Briggs.
  27. JLeigh New Member

  28. Mithras-Kosmokrator New Member

    Only on an amateur basis. He has played Vetinari, and according to Wikipedia most representations of him are now modelled to a greater or lesser extent on him (not so sure about that second bit, myself - though if you look under the entry for Caroc Cards in 'The Companion', the sketch of 'The Ruler' card does bear a distinct resemblance to Mr Briggs)
  29. Buzzfloyd Spelling Bee

    I find his face too pudgy and his eyes too sleepy, but otherwise not bad. Something about him reminds me of Rowan Atkinson though. It might be the pointy eyebrows.
  30. AuntieM New Member

    Stephen Briggs would like to play Vetinari in a movie and yes, he does act. He wrote the scripts for several books so that they can be done on the stage and he is involved in a theatre company. He portrays Vetinari at the Conventions and he did also at the town twinning at Wincanton in 2002.

    Pictures of Vetinari are very like Briggs but I'm not sure which came first. Apparently Briggs was upset a bit because he didn't get a part in Hogfather but then the Patrician wasn't in it.

    Briggs also produces DW merchandise on a website as stephenbriggs.com cmot dibbler
  31. BadEarthMum New Member

    Rhys Ifans as Vetinari??

    I think Rhys Ifans would make a very good Vetinari. He's tall, thin and can do twisted very well!
  32. howz about mr kidby as that is who the drawings of vetinari are based upon. you never know give him a few acting lessons and set him away he might even be half decent cant be any worse than joss akland as ridcully.
  33. Hsing Moderator

    Hm. Mr Kidby? That is who the drawings are by. Some of the Clarecraft figurines etc are based on Steen Briggs (sp?) I believe, but he again looks only vaguely like Paul Kidby's interpretation, exceot for fitting the universal description everybody can agree upon.

    Scroll down this site, and you can see what Mr Kidby looks like.
    The Paul Kidby Biography
  34. so sorry iam a plum next time i'll try to remember articles ive read before quoting them feel free to lambast me to the rest of the site for being a dumbass!
  35. alice New Member


    I like the actor who plays Snape in Harry Potter
  36. Buzzfloyd Spelling Bee

    That would be Alan Rickman.
  37. Sunna New Member

    Ooh,i like Rickman for it!
  38. Raven New Member

    I think Charles Dance would be purrrfect! he even has the widows peak...
  39. Hsing Moderator

    I thought so too! I was imagining him the way he looked in "The Golden Child", though - only with a different colour scheme, of course. The way he looks now, he might also play Downey...
  40. BlueOrca New Member

    After reading all of your choices I started thinking about actors I know who would fit the description. And I came up with Anthony Cistaro.
  41. Tephlon Active Member

    OK, new rule:

    If you mention an actor who you think would be perfect for a certain role:

    Please Link To a Picture!

    It's not fair having me do all the searching on Google and IMDB... ;-)
  42. Hsing Moderator

    Okay, you are right.

    Here he is in films where he would have fit into this casting thread, hair colour put aside...


    If his looks had developed more continually, that is...

    In this picture, he looks rather Downey-ish to me:
  43. kasyx New Member

    dont you think jeremy Irons would be good as Vetinari?
  44. mazekin Member

    Possibly, though seeing who they got to play Rincewind and Twoflower for the new Sky version of Colour of Magic that's out at Easter, they could just pluck a name out of a hat and call him Vetinari. It seems to me like they haven't really taken any of TP'S visions (Take a look at The Last Hero) into account.
  45. Katcal I Aten't French !

    And yet Pterry seems to be quite happy with those choices... I don't really get it, but hey, who are we to question the Marthter ?
  46. kasyx New Member

    Catkal`s got a point. if pterry didnt like the actors who are playing his people then surely he could do something about it. So he must be happy about the choices. (wounder where they got a multi-legged actor to play the luggage though:lol:) respect to all those who donated to the Altzheimer charity by the way :smile:
  47. BadEarthMum New Member


    On another thread somewhere I heard someone mentioning Jason Isaacs for the Vetinari role. Never thought about him before, but having looked at a few pics of him and seeing some of the roles he's done (Lucius Malfoy for one) I think he is very well suited to play Vetinari!
  48. Megan New Member

    Have mentioned this on another thread, so I'll repeat myself and annoy you all. I think Alan Rickman would be great, yet I would like to suggest John Malkovich. Or am I deluded?
  49. kasyx New Member

    Not as deluded as having David Jason as Rincewind and Sean Aston as Twoflower :lol:
  50. Miellyn New Member

    Not Alan Rickman, I like him but he's too jowly. There was one perfect suggestion here: Jeremy Irons. He's got the low key humor and aloofness to make Vetinary come to life.

    What!? David Jason as Rincewind? But he's Albert/Alberto Malich.. I thought he did a great job as Albert. But No Way he could be rincewind.

  51. Katcal I Aten't French !

    Too late. Although I thought Jeremy Irons would be perfect until I actually saw him and he put on that funny accent. Why ?
  52. Miellyn New Member

    I've been googling the movie, and I think I might like Sean Astin as twoflower, but David Jason just doesn't match up with my mental image of rincewind. He is too short and too well, not fat exactly but well-fed.

    Is there somewhere where I can get to see the movie? download or buy the dvd?

  53. wilva New Member

    no megan i dont think you are deluded John Malkovich would appear a good option for me personally :surprised:
  54. Katcal I Aten't French !

    The DVD isn't out yet, it probably will be by Christmas if Hogfather is anything to go by... I think you can see extracts and trailers on the official website.
    Sky one - The Colour of magic
  55. Sir_Vaims New Member

    I actually liked Jeremy Irons as Vetinari. i think that he managed quite well to pass as merciless yet diplomatic and modern tyrant.
  56. Gypsy New Member

    I second Jason Isaacs...definitely didn't love Jeremy Irons. His portrayal of Vetinari was good, with his manner etc, but the accent bothered me as well.

    Photos of Jason Isaacs
  57. Joculator The 'Old' Fool

    If we could have a 'Fantasy League' of any actors, my choice would have been Peter Vaughan who played 'Genial' Harry Grout in Porridge on BBC TV.
    Just the right mix of sinister with a hint of horrific humour. He's about 85 now but in his heyday he would have been an ideal choice.
  58. Yoko New Member

    Hugh Laurie would be ideal. Tall, austere and witty beyond belief!
    Also, do you remember Jonathan Brett from the Sherlock Holmes series? He even got the temples exactly right. Although sadly dead. Amazing actor though.
  59. wilva New Member

    YES Hugh would be great! I find it a bit hard to picture real people playing the characters that are so familiar in my head as themselves though ;). Who are people thinking of for Sam Vimes? Is anyone thinking about him?
  60. TheLuggage New Member

    Alan Rickman would be my choice!
    He is pale, well spoken, controlled, commanding, cool and looks great in black.

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