Roman Kalik (1:15:33 PM): By the way, would you find it amusing that the Pentagon had, under Clinton, prepared completely thought out and detailed plans for making war on Iraq and the subsequent occupation? Roman Kalik (1:15:42 PM): And that said plans were scrapped under Bush? garnrag (1:16:20 PM): over 1000 US soldiers have died in Iraq since Memorial Day, 2006. tomorrow is Memorial Day in america. we don't even get to hear news out of afghanistan anymore, but our troops are still there. garnrag (1:16:34 PM): i find it damn fucking difficult to find reports of bush's criminal incompetance to be 'amusing'
I would like to add that in retrospect, I fully understand Garner's point of view and would react in a very similar manner had I been in the same position.
Over 3000 troops have been lost in this war, I'm sad and sickened and wonder my self why we haven't picked a wall for that man and the bunch of toads he has around him. He'll be leading our country in mourning today and I feel sorry for anyone who has to stand near him. I honestly expect a thunderbolt to strike him down at any time. I suppose that's just wishful thinking though.
Can I nominate a certain Mr Blair to stand with him against a wall. He's licked Bush's Ass for so many years, why should he stop now just cos he's quitting his job.
If one was to look for a wall big enough for all those who publicly or secretly sucked up to Bush even if you limit that number to the aforementioned war, one would need, methinks, one big fuckin' wall, man.
Ah, good man, smart idea there ! Now go make some more coffee. And don't forget the biscuits this time.
Still. Better than the (estimated) total of 40 million deaths in WW1 (9.7 of those military and 9.0 civilian) Not to mention the 72 million deaths in WW2 of which a shockingly small percentage of only (only! rolls eyes) 25 million were military. The vast majority at a horrifying 75 million were civilian. Sort of puts the little Iraqi spat into perspective.
I don't like correcting peoples, especially when they've made valid points. But there were only a total of 19.7 million deaths in WW1 as adding your totals together would come close to adding up to. And there were 47 million civilian deaths in ww2. It's still 91.7 million people too many.
The figures are arguable whichever way you look at them. No one source is definitive and total precision is not feasible. As you say those are too many deaths. I read an intersting article ages ago about how they chose the " Unknown Soldier" for the tomb in Westminster Abbey. Seems the identity WAS known but no family to claim him. Choice of three corpses. Such are the fortunes of war.
I must really be losing it because I obviously can't add... 25+75=72 Ah the world of double speak is here at last, I can let my cynacism run amok as obviously I'm already living in the ultimate anti-utopia...
This is all dragging us away from the important issue. Chocolate biscuits are plain chocolate, milk chocolate biscuits are just wrong.
You know, those guys who suddenly go mad and start shooting random people ? Not many people know that they do this because they were given milk chocolate biscuits. I'm guessing Dubya launched the war in iraq after he got given a cup of cocoa with no bikkits at all ! :redface: Now that deserves a war on terror. (This is the thread for not-funny jokes about mass-murdering isn't it ?)
So Jack The Ripper was a biscuit inventor that couldn't get the recipe right. Is that what you're suggesting?
the death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic. go on, identify the source of that quote and win a chocolate biscuit.