These quotes are taken from here: so, a chap wanted to know if it would be possible to import new modles of hoods that were more 'ninja-like', i assume something like a cross between the extisting cowls and a ski-mask, into a computer game (Oblivion). The discussion was more or less technical about what it would involve for the game editing until someone felt the need to question why ninjas are so cool these days. It's a fine question, it deserves to be asked, but not around ninja fanboys. Why not? and I quote: "Dear god , why do kids these days like ninjas so much? It's not like they actually knew how to fight , they coulden't take on five guys at once depsite what all those lame anime shows like naruto lead you to believe. I'm sure theres alot of people who know what ninjas were really like ,but most of the fans of em are blind ignorent morons. Ninjas suck Flame away" an immediate response: "We know real ninjas suck... but they still looked cool... isnt that what were askin for here? The look? Real Ninjas: Nothing more then Spies and assassins, and rarely did they excel at the latter... Our ninjas: they look cools as hell, so who cares?" now, that was fine, really, but it's followed up by THIS guy: "Anyone that claims to know 'the truth about ninjas' without extensive study on the subject is an idiot. As someone who's at least tried to look for the truth, I've found every kind of 'ninja'. Spies, assassins, warriors, monks... it depends completely on the person. Some were badasses legends were written about, some were idiots and some were just vassals serving their lord. Just like any other type of warrior. Now, as for the mythical ninja in movies and video games, those are awesome, and I can understand why people would want their look. " now, i ask you, who here had a perfect mental picture of the Comic Book Guy from the simpsons after that first opening line, 'anyone that that claims... is an idiot'? I'm reminded of a line Harvy Keitel had in From Dusk Till Dawn, 'has anyone here read any books on vampires, i mean, an actual book?' I've done extensive research on my ass. It was a long and arduous process involving dozens of reference sources and hours studying in the libarary. I now feel i am the most qualified expert on my ass to pronounce any opinion on my ass to be the superior opinion on the grounds that it is my own opinion about my ass. you could replace 'my ass' with 'ninjas' or damn near anything else in that paragraph and it'd still be a perfect ralleying cry for the rejects of the wiki world that call the web home. i'm sorely tempted to tell that poor bastard that the REAL truth about ninjas is that they were totally awesome and would flip out and kill people whenever they wanted because they fight ALL THE TIME! I know this because of extensive research under taken here
You know they'll start coming here now, if they check referer logs, and telling us what nerds we are for talking about the Discworld so much... All the ninjas I've read about were pretty lethal types, I haven't seen the Inspector Clouseau types that guy seems to be hinting at.
He failed to mention ninja pirates, the bestest most awsome ninjas of them all... they fought ALL the time and they had a peg leg, totally awesome man. :roll: He needs to try this and expand his horizons more, I hear Iraq is lovely at this time of year...
Yeah, that guy's an idiot. This is one of three basic fallacies about authority. This, the first, is that only authorities can have valid opinions on a subject. The second is that, contrary to what some of the wiki-types like to believe, an expert on a subject [i:21f4ef0465]does[/i:21f4ef0465] have a more credible opinion on a subject than a layman. Sadly, many people think that Joe off the street can speak just as authoritatively about quarks and gluons as a quantum physicist. The opinion of someone who's spent a lot of time learning about a subject [i:21f4ef0465]should[/i:21f4ef0465] have more weight than the opinion of someone whose son has a subscription to Scientific American. The third is that expertise in one field means one's opinion is equally valuable in other situations. Joe may be a genius rocket scientist, but that doesn't mean he can analyze Hamlet better than anyone else.
corolary to the second one, history is chock full of experts and specialists who've been dead wrong. just because you've got a degree and years of experience in rocket science doesn't make you automatically correct on any given issue about rocket science, something both laymen and specialists often forget. especially if it would weaken their authority in an arguement. anyway, homework time... we've already seen someone dig up the pruported first ever use of the word 'troll' to describe an idiot on the internet... when was the first time the ninja vs. pirate debate started up?
It really depends on the gaming forums you go on. A lot of the official sites are full of idiots, because it's the first port of call. Also, they hardly have any posts, which basically means that they're trying to fit in, in which they try to be cool and be accepted. Unofficial ones normally are of higher standard. The old Half Life Source forums (now defunct), were excellent, as are the general gaming forums. The internet is full of idiots, you just got to ignore them.
